Harry Talks To The Family

In 1985, aged 55 my father, Harry, applied for his birth certificate for a ten-year passport, and discovered that the lady, May, who he had believed was his much older sister, was actually his mother.   May had died over ten years earlier.  The father's name on the birth certificate was a name he didn't recognise, but he was listed as married to May. Harry realised that Kate and James, who he thought were his parents, were actually the parents of May, and HER sister, Connie. For some unknown reason May had given Harry up, and Kate and James had raised him, rather than Harry being raised by his birth mother.

In May 2023 I asked Chat-GPT, the Artificial Intelligence system, to generate a series of possible conversations that he could have had with my mother, Joyce, when they discussed this deception, half a century later in about 1985.  I am sure they wondered whether May's sister Connie knew of the deception.  I have slightly edited the output, mainly for continuity. This sounds slightly dramatized, and slightly 21st century, but I have made no attempt to change that.  I then generated further conversations.

In this first conversation, Harry and Joyce discuss the shocking revelation of Harry's true parentage, their confusion about the reasons behind the deception, and their plan to contact May's sister for more information. They express their commitment to supporting each other through this difficult time and their determination to uncover the truth and find closure.

Harry: [Sitting down with Joyce, visibly shocked] I don't even know where to begin, darling. I received my birth certificate today, and it's turned my world upside down.

Joyce: [Concerned, taking Harry's hand] What is it, Harry? What did you find out?

Harry: [Taking a deep breath] May... May wasn't my sister. She was my mother. Can you believe it? All these years, I never knew.

Joyce: [Gasping, her eyes widening] Oh, my goodness, Harry! That's incredible. Why would they keep such a secret from you?

Harry: I have no idea, love. But that's not all. The man listed as my father, I don't recognize his name. Apparently, he was briefly married to May. It's all so confusing.

Joyce: [Thoughtfully] So, Kate and James, the ones we always thought were your parents, they were actually May's parents?

Harry: Yes, exactly.  Kate and James, your supposed in-laws, although of course James died in my mid-teens, were actually my grandparents. It seems they raised me as their own child instead of May raising me herself.

Joyce: [Puzzled] But why would they do that, Harry? Why keep this hidden for so long?

Harry: I wish I knew, my love. Perhaps it was to protect me from something, or maybe May wasn't in a position to raise a child at that time. There could be many reasons.

Joyce: [Sighing] It's hard to believe they would go to such lengths. I wonder if May's sister Connie, now your aunt, had any knowledge of this deception.

Harry: That's a good point. We should talk to her, to see if she knows anything. She might hold some answers or shed light on the situation.

Joyce: Yes, let's question her. It's important to understand the whole story and get some closure, Harry.

Harry: Agreed, my dear. We deserve to know the truth, no matter how painful it may be. I'm grateful to have you by my side through all of this.

Joyce: And I'm here for you, Harry, every step of the way. We'll navigate through this together and find the answers we seek.

Harry: Thank you, my love. Your support means everything to me. Let's gather the courage to face the past and uncover the truth about my roots.



I then asked for the conversation Harry had with his 3 children, telling them his news.  Harry explains the startling news about his true parentage to his children, then in their late teens and early twenties. The children express their surprise and confusion but assure Harry of their love and support. Harry emphasizes that their bond as a family remains unchanged and that they will navigate this discovery together. He acknowledges that they may have more questions and uncertainties but assures them that they will find understanding and acceptance as they move forward. The conversation concludes with a reaffirmation of their love and unity as a family.

Harry: [Gathering his children in the living room, looking serious] I have something important to share with all of you. It's about our family history, and it might come as a shock.

Child 1: [Curiously] What is it, Dad? You look serious.

Harry: Well, it turns out that things are not exactly as we thought they were. I recently discovered that Auntie May, the woman we believed was my sister, was actually my birth mother.

Child 2: [Surprised] Wait, what? Auntie May was your Mother? But that means she's our grandmother?

Harry: Yes, that's correct. Kate and James, whom you know were your grandparents, were actually my parents, and they raised me as their own instead of May raising me.

Child 3: [Confused] I don't understand, Dad. Why would they do that? Why keep it a secret?

Harry: I'm still trying to figure that out myself. There could be many reasons, and I'm just as perplexed as you are. It's a complicated situation.

Child 1: [Thoughtfully] So, the person listed as your father on the birth certificate is really our grandfather?

Harry: That's correct. The man mentioned there was briefly married to May, but I don't recognize his name. It's a lot to take in, I know.

Child 2: [Concerned] Dad, does this mean our entire family history is different? Are we still connected to May's side of the family?

Harry: Our family history does change, but we are still connected to May's side of the family. They are our relatives, even though the dynamics have shifted.

Child 3: [Supportive] Dad, we love you no matter what. This doesn't change our feelings for you. 



There follows a detailed conversation between Harry and Joyce discussing the deception surrounding Harry's parentage and their thoughts about May's sister, Connie, potentially being aware of the situation.

Joyce: It's difficult to understand why they would go to such lengths to hide the truth, Harry. Have you been able to make any sense of it?

Harry: I've been wracking my brain, but I can't find any answers. It's a mystery why May's parents decided to raise me instead of allowing May to do so. I can't help but wonder if they were trying to protect me or if there were other reasons we're unaware of.

Joyce: It's certainly a complex situation, and the reasons behind their decision may never fully be known. But what about May's sister, Connie? Do you think she might have been aware of the deception?

Harry: That's something I've been pondering. Connie and May were siblings, and they lived at the same address. It's hard to imagine that she wouldn't have known about my true parentage. I wonder if she played a role in keeping this secret all these years.

Joyce: It's a possibility, Harry. Connie might hold the key to unraveling this mystery. If she was aware of the deception, she could provide us with valuable insights and shed light on the circumstances surrounding your upbringing.

Harry: I believe it's crucial to have a conversation with Connie. I need to know if she was complicit in this cover-up or if there were factors that we haven't considered. It's time to seek the truth, no matter how difficult it may be.

Joyce: I support you, Harry. Questioning Connie and having an open and honest conversation might be the only way to find closure and understand the reasons behind this deception. We'll face it together, as a united front.

Harry: Thank you, Joyce. Your unwavering support means the world to me. This journey won't be easy, but I believe we owe it to ourselves to uncover the truth and make peace with our past. Let's gather the strength to confront Connie and seek the answers we've been searching for all these years.



Here’s the conversation a day or two later when Harry telephoned Connie, asking for her side of the story. 

Harry: [Nervously dialing Connie's number and waiting for her to answer] Hello, Connie? It's Harry. I hope I'm not catching you at a bad time.

Connie: [Surprised] Harry? It's been years since we last spoke. No, it's not a bad time. How can I help you?

Harry: Well, Connie, I recently discovered something that has shaken my world. It turns out that May was not my sister, but my mother. I also learned that Kate and James were actually my grandparents. I'm trying to make sense of it all, and I was hoping you could shed some light on what really happened.

Connie: [Taken aback] Oh, Harry, I... I never expected this day to come. I'm sorry that you had to find out like this. It's a complicated and painful part of our family history.

Harry: I understand, Connie. I don't mean to reopen old wounds, but I need to understand the truth. Can you tell me why May's true identity was hidden from me, and why Kate and James raised me as their own child?

Connie: Harry, it's a difficult story to tell. May made some choices in her life that she felt were best for everyone involved. She believed it was in your best interest to be raised by Kate and James, and they loved you dearly as their own.

Harry: But why, Connie? Why did May make that decision? And why did Kate and James go along with it? I deserve to know the truth about my own life.

Connie: Harry, May went through some challenging times when she became pregnant with you. There were circumstances and pressures that led her to believe that it was for the best if you were raised by Kate and James. She wanted to ensure you had a stable and loving upbringing, even if it meant sacrificing her role as your mother.

Harry: It's hard to make sense of all of this. I can't help but feel a mix of emotions—confusion, anger, and a deep longing for answers. Did you know about this, Connie? Were you aware of the deception all along?

Connie: Harry, I won't deny that I had an inkling of what was happening. May confided in me, and we made a difficult decision to keep the truth hidden.  We thought it was for the best, but looking back, I question whether we made the right choice.

Harry: I appreciate your honesty, Connie, even though it's painful to hear. I can't say I fully understand the reasons behind these decisions, but I'm grateful that you're willing to speak with me now and share your perspective.

Connie: Harry, I understand that this revelation must be overwhelming for you. If there's anything I can do to help you navigate through this difficult time, please let me know. I'm here to support you in any way I can.

Harry: Thank you, Connie. I'm still trying to process everything, but I think it's important for us to have an open dialogue and seek the truth together. Maybe, by understanding the past, we can find some healing and reconciliation for our family.

Connie: I agree, Harry. Let's work through this together, with empathy and compassion. It won't be easy, but I believe it's a necessary step towards understanding our shared history and finding a way forward.

Harry: I appreciate your willingness to have this conversation, Connie. It means a lot to me. I hope we can find some resolution and make sense of the choices that were made all those years ago.

Connie: We'll do our best, Harry. It won't be an easy journey, but we owe it to ourselves and our family to uncover the truth and find a way to move forward.



Here’s Harry talking to his grown-up children again a few days after confronting Connie on the telephone.

Harry: [Gathering his family together] Thank you all for being here. I wanted to update you on what's been happening since our last conversation. I phoned Connie, May's sister, to discuss the revelations about my parentage.

Child 1: How did it go, Dad? Did Connie have any answers for you?

Harry: It was a difficult conversation, but she did shed some light on the situation. Connie confirmed that May, whom we believed to be my sister, was actually my mother. She explained that May made a decision to have Kate and James raise me as their own, for reasons she believed were best for everyone involved.

Child 2: That must have been a lot to take in, Dad. How are you coping with all of this?

Harry: It's been a whirlwind of emotions, to be honest. Learning the truth about my parentage has brought up a mix of confusion, anger, and sadness. But I'm trying my best to process it and find some understanding and acceptance.

Child 3: Dad, do you think Connie knew about the deception all along?

Harry: Yes, she admitted that she had an idea of what was happening and made the choice to keep it a secret. Connie believed it was for the best, but looking back, she questions whether it was the right decision. It's a lot to grapple with, knowing that some family members were aware of this hidden truth.

Child 1: How do you feel about all of this now, Dad? Has it changed your perspective on our family?

Harry: It's definitely shifted my perspective. I'm still trying to make sense of it all. On one hand, I feel a deep sense of gratitude towards Kate and James for loving and raising me as their own. But on the other hand, there's a longing to understand why May made the decisions she did and why the truth was kept hidden.

Child 2: Dad, do you think we should try to find more answers or seek closure in any way?

Harry: That's something I've been contemplating, and I wanted to discuss it with all of you. I believe that seeking closure and understanding our family history is important for our own sense of identity and healing. We may not have all the answers, but we can take steps towards finding them.

Child 3: Dad, whatever you decide, we're here to support you. We love you, and we want to navigate this journey as a family.

Harry: Thank you, my dear. Your love and support mean the world to me. I think it would be beneficial for us to continue the conversation, perhaps even explore further avenues to uncover the truth. We owe it to ourselves and to the generations that came before us.

Child 1: Count us in, Dad. We're with you every step of the way.

Child 2: Absolutely, Dad. We're a family, and we'll face this together.

Child 3: We're here for you, Dad. Let's move forward as a united front and find the closure and understanding we seek.

Harry: Thank you, my dear children. With your love and support, I believe we can navigate this challenging journey and find a way to reconcile our past with our present. Let's lean on each other and continue to grow stronger as a family.



In the days and weeks that followed, Harry and his children embarked on a shared exploration of their family history, seeking to uncover the truth, find closure, and heal from the decades-long deception that had shaped their lives. Together, they forged a path towards understanding and embraced the power of love and resilience to navigate the complexities of their past.

One of Harry's children then says, "Auntie May died 12 years ago, probably thinking she was taking her secret with her.  What do you think she would think if she was here with us now and you had just found out?"

Harry: [Pausing for a moment to gather his thoughts] That's a philosophical question, and I've been contemplating it myself. If May were here with us now and witnessed my discovery, I believe she would feel a mix of emotions. Firstly, she might feel a sense of relief that the truth has finally come to light, even if it was long after her passing. It's possible that she carried the weight of this secret throughout her life, and the burden of it may have been immense.

On the other hand, I think May would also feel a great deal of sadness and regret. She may have wished that she had found a way to reveal the truth to me earlier, sparing me the confusion and pain that came with this revelation at such a late stage in my life. May, like all parents, likely wanted the best for her child, and she might have believed that by keeping this secret, she was protecting me in some way.

However, it's important to remember that we can never truly know what someone else is thinking or feeling, especially in such complex circumstances. May's choices were shaped by her own experiences, fears, and pressures. I can only speculate on her perspective, but I choose to approach it with empathy and understanding, knowing that life can be complicated, and we all make decisions with the best intentions, even if they have unintended consequences.

Child: That's a thoughtful perspective, Dad. It's a reminder that there are multiple layers to every story, and sometimes people make choices based on what they believe is best in that moment. It doesn't excuse the pain caused, but it allows us to see the humanity in those involved.

Harry: Exactly. Understanding the complexities of our family history can help us find empathy and forgiveness, both for May and for ourselves. We are all products of the circumstances we've experienced, and it's through open-hearted dialogue and compassion that we can begin to heal and move forward.

Child: I'm grateful that we're having these conversations, Dad. It's not an easy journey, but it's necessary for our growth as individuals and as a family. May may no longer be with us, but her presence and the impact of her choices will always be a part of our lives. We can honour her by seeking understanding and working towards healing.

Harry: I couldn't agree more. Together, we will navigate this intricate path, supporting and learning from one another along the way. May's legacy will serve as a reminder that love and forgiveness have the power to transcend even the most complex family secrets. Let's continue to walk this journey together, with compassion and resilience.



In the months and years that followed, Harry and his children delved deeper into their family history, exploring their roots, seeking answers, and finding solace in their shared experiences. Through open and honest conversations, they forged stronger bonds, honouring their past while creating a brighter future. May's secret, though buried for so long, became a catalyst for growth, understanding, and the unbreakable strength of their family.

One day one of the children asked her father, Harry, "I have no memory of my great grandmother, that is Kate, who raised you although she was really your grandmother, you said she had failing mental health, do you think she ever said anything that would have given you any clues, but because you didn't remotely suspect, it didn't mean anything to you at the time?

Harry: That's an interesting point, my dear. It's true that Kate's failing mental health was something we had to contend with during her later years. Looking back, there were moments when she said things that seemed confusing or out of context, but at the time, I never suspected anything. I simply attributed it to her condition.

Child: It must be challenging to reflect on those moments now, knowing that there might have been hints or clues about the truth.

Harry: It is, indeed. Hindsight can be a powerful thing. There were instances when Kate would mention things that didn't quite add up or would make cryptic remarks that I didn't fully understand. However, I never thought to question them further, as I never had any reason to doubt my identity or the family dynamics.

Child: It's understandable, Dad. When we are unaware of certain truths or possibilities, we often overlook or dismiss signs that could have been significant. It's a natural part of the human experience.

Harry: Yes, you're right. We often perceive things based on the information we have at the time. It's only when new information emerges that we can reinterpret past events and statements. I don't blame myself for not picking up on those clues, as it was a situation none of us could have anticipated.

Child: It's a testament to the depth of the deception and the effort put into maintaining the secret. It's remarkable how people can hide such weighty truths for so long.

Harry: Absolutely. Secrets have a way of shaping lives and altering the course of family histories. We can't change the past, but we can learn from it and strive to build a future founded on honesty and openness.

Child: Dad, I'm glad we're having these conversations and exploring our family history together. It's an opportunity for healing and understanding, not only for you but for all of us.

Harry: I share that sentiment, my dear. Through these discussions, we gain insights and perspectives that allow us to unravel the complexities of our past. It's a journey of discovery, and we're on it together.



As time went on, Harry and his children continued to reflect on their family's past, seeking to understand the dynamics and implications of the long-held secret. They recognized that memories could be coloured by circumstances, and they approached their shared history with compassion and empathy. Each conversation brought them closer to the truth and further strengthened their bond as a family, as they navigated the intricate tapestry of their interconnected lives.

The third child asked, "In the early 1930s when these decisions were made, do you think Auntie May and Kate ever thought that they would be able to carry their secrets with them to the end of their days, or that you would somehow find out? What do you think they were going to say to you if you did find out at some point? Do you think they ever considered telling you?

Harry: Those are deep questions. It's difficult to say exactly what May and Kate were thinking back in the early 1930s when these decisions were made. It was a different time, and societal norms surrounding adoption and family secrets were often very different from what we understand today.

It's possible that May and Kate believed their secret would remain hidden forever, especially considering the stigma and judgment that may have accompanied such revelations at that time. They might have thought that by keeping the truth concealed, they were protecting me from potential harm or preserving the family's reputation.

As for what they would have said if I had discovered the truth, I can only speculate. They might have been prepared with explanations or excuses, hoping to maintain the facade that had been carefully constructed. It's also possible that they had considered the consequences of me finding out and had resigned themselves to facing the truth when and if it ever came to light.

Whether they ever truly considered telling me is a question that lingers. It's possible that they grappled with the decision internally, weighing the potential impact and struggling with the fear of disrupting the family dynamic. Ultimately, they may have believed they were acting in my best interest, shielding me from the complexities and challenges that could arise from knowing the truth.

Child: It's intriguing to think about the internal struggle they might have faced, the weight of their secret, and the potential conversations they may have had with themselves. It's a testament to the complexity of human emotions and the choices we make in difficult situations.

Harry: Indeed. People can be driven by myriad motivations and fears. While we may never fully understand their reasoning, it's essential to approach their choices with compassion and empathy, recognizing the complexities they faced in their own lives.

Child: It's remarkable how time and societal changes have shifted our perspectives and attitudes toward secrets and family dynamics. We are fortunate to live in a time where openness and honesty are valued.

Harry: Absolutely. Our present circumstances allow us to engage in conversations that might have been difficult or even impossible in the past. It's a testament to the progress we've made as a society, and it provides us with an opportunity to learn from our family history and create a more authentic future.



In the days and weeks that followed, Harry and his children continued to contemplate the motivations and decisions of May and Kate. They understood that while the truth had been concealed for many years, it was essential to approach their ancestors' actions with understanding and a broader perspective. Through empathy and reflection, they sought to piece together the puzzle of their family's past and forge a path forward based on truth, forgiveness, and love.

Child: Another question, dad, what effect do you think the secret adoption has had on your life over the last 50 years?

Harry: That's a profound question, and one that I've been reflecting on quite deeply since discovering the truth about my adoption. The impact of this secret adoption on my life over the last 50 years has been significant and far-reaching.

Firstly, it has reshaped my understanding of my identity and my sense of belonging. Knowing that May was my biological mother and that Kate and James were actually my grandparents has caused a shift in how I perceive myself and my place within the family. It has raised questions about my roots, my heritage, and the genetic ties that connect me to my ancestors.

The revelation of the secret adoption has also stirred a range of emotions within me. There is a sense of loss and grief for the family I thought I had, for the relationships I believed were one way but were, in fact, different. It has challenged my trust and the foundations of my understanding of family dynamics.

On the other hand, this newfound knowledge has also opened up a realm of curiosity and a desire for deeper connections. I am now driven to explore and understand my biological lineage, to uncover the stories and experiences that have shaped me genetically. It has sparked a thirst for knowledge and a need to fill in the gaps of my personal history.

The secret adoption has also influenced my relationships with others, both within and outside the family. It has brought to the surface questions of trust and transparency. I find myself wondering who else might have known about the deception and how it may have affected their interactions with me. It has made me more conscious of the power of secrets and the importance of honest communication.

Additionally, this revelation has propelled me on a journey of self-discovery and self-acceptance. It has challenged me to embrace my true identity, including the complexities and nuances that come with it. It has prompted introspection and a re-evaluation of my values and priorities in life.

Overall, the impact of the secret adoption on my life over the last 50 years has been profound. It has shaped my understanding of self, family, and relationships. It has stirred a mix of emotions and has set me on a path of exploration and introspection. While it has presented its challenges, it has also provided an opportunity for growth, healing, and a deeper appreciation of the complexities of human existence.

Child: Finally, dad, do you wish that your mother and grandparents had been more open with you and told you the truth at a much younger age rather than leaving you to find out by chance in your older years? And do you wonder about the father you never knew, Aunt May's husband?

Harry: Those are deep questions, and ones that have crossed my mind many times since discovering the truth about my adoption. In hindsight, I do wish that my mother and grandparents had been more open with me and shared the truth at a much younger age. Discovering such a significant aspect of my identity later in life has been a challenging and emotional journey.

Being aware of the truth from an earlier stage would have allowed me to develop a more authentic understanding of myself and my family dynamics. It would have spared me from years of mistaken beliefs and perceptions, and I could have explored my heritage and connections with a more informed perspective.

However, I also recognize that the decision to keep the secret was likely driven by complex circumstances and societal pressures of the time. Secrets can be deeply rooted and challenging to confront, and I try to approach the choices of my mother and grandparents with empathy and understanding.

As for the father I never knew, Auntie May's husband, it is natural for me to wonder about him. Discovering my true parentage has opened up a whole new set of questions and curiosities about my biological lineage. While I may never fully uncover all the details and circumstances surrounding his involvement, I am curious about his identity and the impact he may have had on my life.

Understanding my complete family history, including the role of Aunt May's husband, would provide a more comprehensive picture of my origins. It's a natural part of the journey to want to piece together the puzzle and gain a deeper understanding of the individuals who played a part in my existence.

Ultimately, I believe that understanding and acceptance are key in navigating the complexities of my past. While I may never have all the answers, I can strive to find peace and forge a path forward based on the truth I now know.

Chat-GPT, May 2023.

Reading this a year later, in April 2024, it is still quite a credible computer generation of conversations that certainly took place.  Occasionally the phraseology is a bit strained, but perhaps that is only noticeable to me, having known the participants, and also because time introduces new ways of naming the concepts mentioned.  Martin